Comments on: Demystifying The Cloud: Where Do SaaS, PaaS and Other Acronyms Fit In? http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/ Understanding the "as a Service" Revolution Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:11:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CloudNinja http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-113909 CloudNinja Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:42:13 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-113909 There is alot of thrashing in this space and it is hard to determine which Cloud to goto as everyone is doing something a little different – its hard to compare Cloud 2 Cloud. A similar diagnosis is by David Chappell: "If I ruled the world”, says David Chappell, “I would make the phrase ‘private cloud’ illegal”. In conversation with David Gristwood, David Chappell, during his recent world tour, discusses the Cloud, its importance and role in the partner ecosystem, and cloud players, such as Google, Amazon, Salesforce.com, VMware and more. You can see his Cloud2Cloud comparison in brief here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7NHQdh8_uo A more recent talk with David Chappell on this topic where he covers others issues such as: - IaaS vs PaaS - Private vs Public Cloud - Applications that are not a great fit for the Cloud and those which are. - The threat of Public Cloud to IT departments see: http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/David+Gristwood/Conversations-with-David-Chappell-about-Windows-Azure-and-Cloud-Computing/ thoughts? hope that helps, -cn There is alot of thrashing in this space and it is hard to determine which Cloud to goto as everyone is doing something a little different – its hard to compare Cloud 2 Cloud. A similar diagnosis is by David Chappell:
“If I ruled the world”, says David Chappell, “I would make the phrase ‘private cloud’ illegal”. In conversation with David Gristwood, David Chappell, during his recent world tour, discusses the Cloud, its importance and role in the partner
ecosystem, and cloud players, such as Google, Amazon, Salesforce.com, VMware and more. You can see his Cloud2Cloud comparison in brief here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7NHQdh8_uo

A more recent talk with David Chappell on this topic where he covers others issues such as:
- IaaS vs PaaS
- Private vs Public Cloud
- Applications that are not a great fit for the Cloud and those which are.
- The threat of Public Cloud to IT departments
see: http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/David+Gristwood/Conversations-with-David-Chappell-about-Windows-Azure-and-Cloud-Computing/

thoughts?

hope that helps,
-cn

]]> By: Dave - Surge Consulting Group http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-112006 Dave - Surge Consulting Group Wed, 12 May 2010 04:23:36 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-112006 Thanks for the breakdown. Good stuff. Thanks for the breakdown. Good stuff.

]]> By: Jorge Hontoria http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-99256 Jorge Hontoria Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:43:27 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-99256 The industry coming to a consensus around cloud and SaaS terminology but users not. Good article! The industry coming to a consensus around cloud and SaaS terminology but users not.

Good article!

]]> By: Cloud Computing - взгляд скептика « SaaS в России http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-79952 Cloud Computing - взгляд скептика « SaaS в России Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:23:10 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-79952 [...] здесь , здесь и (наиболее понятный текст) здесь. Каждый из авторов претендует на понимание [...] [...] здесь , здесь и (наиболее понятный текст) здесь. Каждый из авторов претендует на понимание [...]

]]> By: Sinclair Schuller http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-77380 Sinclair Schuller Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:58:00 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-77380 Rhett, I definitely see redefined usage all over the place. It's a tactic, as you mentioned, the focuses on creating uncertainty/confusion and can generally slow things down.I look forward to when the industry really shakes out the obvious poor definitions, but that'll take some time. Rhett,

I definitely see redefined usage all over the place. It’s a tactic, as you mentioned, the focuses on creating uncertainty/confusion and can generally slow things down.I look forward to when the industry really shakes out the obvious poor definitions, but that’ll take some time.

]]> By: Rhett Glauser http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-77372 Rhett Glauser Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:00:50 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-77372 It is great to see the industry coming to a consensus around cloud and SaaS terminology. We are starting to see our legacy enterprise competitors abusing the language to stall the market and compensate for decades old technology that can't hold a candle to the benefits of true SaaS and cloud computing. The most common offense, trying to pass off ASP or a legacy on-premise app with a bolt-on Web front end as SaaS. Customers aren't fooled, but there is enough uncertainty in the market that categorizations and definitions like this are very useful. Rhett Service-now.com It is great to see the industry coming to a consensus around cloud and SaaS terminology. We are starting to see our legacy enterprise competitors abusing the language to stall the market and compensate for decades old technology that can’t hold a candle to the benefits of true SaaS and cloud computing. The most common offense, trying to pass off ASP or a legacy on-premise app with a bolt-on Web front end as SaaS. Customers aren’t fooled, but there is enough uncertainty in the market that categorizations and definitions like this are very useful.

Rhett
Service-now.com

]]> By: Sinclair Shuller attempts to clean up the language of the Cloud | Paul Miller http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-74833 Sinclair Shuller attempts to clean up the language of the Cloud | Paul Miller Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:42:38 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-74833 [...] Yesterday’s blog post by Apprenda CEO Sinclair Shuller is an interesting attempt to clarify the hodge-podge of terms that tend to be thrown around almost interchangeably; Cloud, SaaS, PaaS and more. [...] [...] Yesterday’s blog post by Apprenda CEO Sinclair Shuller is an interesting attempt to clarify the hodge-podge of terms that tend to be thrown around almost interchangeably; Cloud, SaaS, PaaS and more. [...]

]]> By: Sinclair Schuller http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-74763 Sinclair Schuller Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:36:27 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-74763 Hi Jan, While I wouldn't use the presence of a channel as categorization criteria (since it's not a technical attribute of the PaaS offering), I think you've identified an important part of the decision making process when evaluating PaaS offerings. Having a good channel is important for distribution, but I suspect PaaS providers not built around a central offering (like Salesforce) will employ unique business models to tap into even more expansive distribution channels offered by partners. Hi Jan,

While I wouldn’t use the presence of a channel as categorization criteria (since it’s not a technical attribute of the PaaS offering), I think you’ve identified an important part of the decision making process when evaluating PaaS offerings. Having a good channel is important for distribution, but I suspect PaaS providers not built around a central offering (like Salesforce) will employ unique business models to tap into even more expansive distribution channels offered by partners.

]]> By: Jan Kodera http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-74762 Jan Kodera Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:22:04 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-74762 Hi, I think that Categorization is good. I think there will be some sort of subcategory in PaaS. I named for myself as with community and without community. My point is that if you made your application on Force.com you have instant distribution channel to Force.com community. And you have access to some basic data of application subscriber. With GAE you have application gallery and access to Google Account, but I think there is a difference. Okay, maybe it is useless to categorize in this way. I am not quite sure about it. What do you think? Hi,

I think that Categorization is good. I think there will be some sort of subcategory in PaaS. I named for myself as with community and without community. My point is that if you made your application on Force.com you have instant distribution channel to Force.com community. And you have access to some basic data of application subscriber. With GAE you have application gallery and access to Google Account, but I think there is a difference. Okay, maybe it is useless to categorize in this way. I am not quite sure about it. What do you think?

]]> By: Paul http://www.saasblogs.com/saas/demystifying-the-cloud-where-do-saas-paas-and-other-acronyms-fit-in/#comment-74756 Paul Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:09:10 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/?p=228#comment-74756 Sinclair, Great post, goes a long way towards decluttering the space. Sinclair,

Great post, goes a long way towards decluttering the space.

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