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	<title>Comments on: When Should Software be Sold Pay Per Use?</title>
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		<title>By: Guillaume Gros</title>
		<link>http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/07/02/when-should-software-be-sold-pay-per-use/#comment-55143</link>
		<dc:creator>Guillaume Gros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll have to agree that it's very important for a customer to know in advance what he can expect on his next bill.
It will not only help when closing the deal so he can compare quickly with other solutions but will also help keeping your existing customers.
SLAs should also come into play in your pricing model. One example is the following model.
The customer will pay a per-usage fee. However the pricing model will have a maximum fee. When that max is reached the customer is switched over to another set of servers along with other customers that are going over their allowed usage. So what you are giving to your customers is that while they remain in the allowed usage they will have one SLA and when they go over another SLA. Some customers will want to leave with that to be sure that their cost is capped. Some others will accept the fact that their costs are not capped to always get the same SLA. In both cases the communication is very important and at least an email should be sent when they go over their limit. Another mechanism that can be implemented is an alarm when the customer goes over his past usage statistics. If the SaaS Company is doing correctly the metering, that information will easily be available and can be used to let customers know in advance that their next bill is likely to change.
A  SaaS company should always charge on usage even when it might seem they are not. When a company charges a per-user license it is still charging per use behind the scene. It is constantly monitoring usage to get the average use per user to adjust the per-seat price based on that.
Usually the costs-usage graph of the SaaS Company is not linear but making small steps (e.g. when adding a new server) and your pricing model should also take that into account. Bottom line is that you should first study your own costs and then derive your pricing model from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to agree that it&#8217;s very important for a customer to know in advance what he can expect on his next bill.<br />
It will not only help when closing the deal so he can compare quickly with other solutions but will also help keeping your existing customers.<br />
SLAs should also come into play in your pricing model. One example is the following model.<br />
The customer will pay a per-usage fee. However the pricing model will have a maximum fee. When that max is reached the customer is switched over to another set of servers along with other customers that are going over their allowed usage. So what you are giving to your customers is that while they remain in the allowed usage they will have one SLA and when they go over another SLA. Some customers will want to leave with that to be sure that their cost is capped. Some others will accept the fact that their costs are not capped to always get the same SLA. In both cases the communication is very important and at least an email should be sent when they go over their limit. Another mechanism that can be implemented is an alarm when the customer goes over his past usage statistics. If the SaaS Company is doing correctly the metering, that information will easily be available and can be used to let customers know in advance that their next bill is likely to change.<br />
A  SaaS company should always charge on usage even when it might seem they are not. When a company charges a per-user license it is still charging per use behind the scene. It is constantly monitoring usage to get the average use per user to adjust the per-seat price based on that.<br />
Usually the costs-usage graph of the SaaS Company is not linear but making small steps (e.g. when adding a new server) and your pricing model should also take that into account. Bottom line is that you should first study your own costs and then derive your pricing model from that.</p>
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		<title>By: More on SaaS pricing&#8230; at diversity.net.nz</title>
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		<dc:creator>More on SaaS pricing&#8230; at diversity.net.nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 18:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SaaS vendors should keep their SaaS pricing simple. After that Sinclair wrote an excellent post over on his blog that elicited some really useful comments. one of the comments came from Yves who [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] SaaS vendors should keep their SaaS pricing simple. After that Sinclair wrote an excellent post over on his blog that elicited some really useful comments. one of the comments came from Yves who [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great advice - we can put most of those initiatives to work pretty quickly. However the one factor I still have to get my head around is pricing for comms from telcos supplying data access (rather than voice) who seem happy to provide second rate service because they are not focused on this part of the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great advice - we can put most of those initiatives to work pretty quickly. However the one factor I still have to get my head around is pricing for comms from telcos supplying data access (rather than voice) who seem happy to provide second rate service because they are not focused on this part of the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Sultan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Sultan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wayne,

To add to Sinclair's comment, one thing that you can (and to my opinion should) consider is that normally you can negotiate with the Telcos a hosting package where you should figure out what your average user cost is, this should be assuming average usage of your application. It will come a point in the lifecycle of the usage of a given customer that either because he has been a very long time client or because of heavy usage of the application where he is consuming considerable more resources than any average client. I would say that it is fair to charge that client an additional fee for the extra amount of resources that he consumes every month. 

In essence your pricing would be something like $n a month per user for y number of resources and for every additional z number of resources used you would pay $m a month on top of the regular subscription fee. In a similar way you can be creative about this and say that you would price your application at $m a month (where $m = 10 x $n) for up to 10 users for x number of resources (where x = 10 x y), this helps you absorb costs a little better and you don’t have to bother the client with overage for each independent user. Further you don’t have to introduce the notion of resource utilization when exposing it to your customers to keep things simple but you would explain it as part of the contract that their usage is tied to the average number of resources consumed for the average client and that they should not have to incur additional expenses unless they go over the normal usage of the application.

The problem of not doing this is that as time goes on, depending on your acquisition rate of new customers the cost per client can increase when it should only increase for the certain number of customers that are using more resources than normal.

Hope this helps!
Abe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wayne,</p>
<p>To add to Sinclair&#8217;s comment, one thing that you can (and to my opinion should) consider is that normally you can negotiate with the Telcos a hosting package where you should figure out what your average user cost is, this should be assuming average usage of your application. It will come a point in the lifecycle of the usage of a given customer that either because he has been a very long time client or because of heavy usage of the application where he is consuming considerable more resources than any average client. I would say that it is fair to charge that client an additional fee for the extra amount of resources that he consumes every month. </p>
<p>In essence your pricing would be something like $n a month per user for y number of resources and for every additional z number of resources used you would pay $m a month on top of the regular subscription fee. In a similar way you can be creative about this and say that you would price your application at $m a month (where $m = 10 x $n) for up to 10 users for x number of resources (where x = 10 x y), this helps you absorb costs a little better and you don’t have to bother the client with overage for each independent user. Further you don’t have to introduce the notion of resource utilization when exposing it to your customers to keep things simple but you would explain it as part of the contract that their usage is tied to the average number of resources consumed for the average client and that they should not have to incur additional expenses unless they go over the normal usage of the application.</p>
<p>The problem of not doing this is that as time goes on, depending on your acquisition rate of new customers the cost per client can increase when it should only increase for the certain number of customers that are using more resources than normal.</p>
<p>Hope this helps!<br />
Abe</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Schuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinclair Schuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Yves,

To be honest, I don't think we're bouond to any particular approach. The Internet, unlike the cell phone industry mentioned in the comments of Wainewright's post, has created the expectation that you can get what you want, when you want, and how you want. That said, I think the industry will always be a pricing "grab bag" with options to satisfy everyone. PaaS will more than likely drive this since PaaS can consolidate pricing mechanics down at the platform layer, allowing SaaS providers to take advantage of the variety of pricing mechanics offered by the PaaS offering with no effort.

Essentially, PaaS will and should drive toward allowing for a variety of monetization schemes that SaaS providers can take advantage of. Prior to PaaS, it was the responsibility of each SaaS provider to deal with pricing intricacies, and since most SaaS providers are resource strapped, they would generally focus on a primary pricing model and wait until the "next version" before offering other options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Yves,</p>
<p>To be honest, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re bouond to any particular approach. The Internet, unlike the cell phone industry mentioned in the comments of Wainewright&#8217;s post, has created the expectation that you can get what you want, when you want, and how you want. That said, I think the industry will always be a pricing &#8220;grab bag&#8221; with options to satisfy everyone. PaaS will more than likely drive this since PaaS can consolidate pricing mechanics down at the platform layer, allowing SaaS providers to take advantage of the variety of pricing mechanics offered by the PaaS offering with no effort.</p>
<p>Essentially, PaaS will and should drive toward allowing for a variety of monetization schemes that SaaS providers can take advantage of. Prior to PaaS, it was the responsibility of each SaaS provider to deal with pricing intricacies, and since most SaaS providers are resource strapped, they would generally focus on a primary pricing model and wait until the &#8220;next version&#8221; before offering other options.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Schuller</title>
		<link>http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/07/02/when-should-software-be-sold-pay-per-use/#comment-54476</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinclair Schuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wayne,

It seems to me that you'd want a marketing person and finance person that understand price buffering on the sale side and a finance person that can help trend cost changes. You would also need to realize that price stabilization is good, but reserve the right to change price at discrete times (such as yearly).

From a price buffering perspective, the person filling your marketing role would have to be skilled in being able to gauge what your market could bear, and pricing at a high enough price point to help buffer against cost fluctuations coming from the telcos. Here is a fine example of where not competing on price and being able to sell your product at a justifiable premium offers you margin protection.

Second, someone with trending and analytic experience can help project cost fluctuations and coordinate your price changes (if necessary) to your customer base.

If you can get individuals with telco experience, even better, but most reasonably smart individuals with the above skills should be able to help regardless. Hope that helps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wayne,</p>
<p>It seems to me that you&#8217;d want a marketing person and finance person that understand price buffering on the sale side and a finance person that can help trend cost changes. You would also need to realize that price stabilization is good, but reserve the right to change price at discrete times (such as yearly).</p>
<p>From a price buffering perspective, the person filling your marketing role would have to be skilled in being able to gauge what your market could bear, and pricing at a high enough price point to help buffer against cost fluctuations coming from the telcos. Here is a fine example of where not competing on price and being able to sell your product at a justifiable premium offers you margin protection.</p>
<p>Second, someone with trending and analytic experience can help project cost fluctuations and coordinate your price changes (if necessary) to your customer base.</p>
<p>If you can get individuals with telco experience, even better, but most reasonably smart individuals with the above skills should be able to help regardless. Hope that helps!</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Hiernaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yves Hiernaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Sinclair,

Phil Wainewright is talking some feedbacks on the poay per use approach on PaaS.

Here : http://blogs.zdnet.com/SAAS/?p=559

Conclusions from Coghead's CEO are going in the same direction than the current discussion even if PaaS had until now more of a pay per use model.

So are we condemned to the packaged approach ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sinclair,</p>
<p>Phil Wainewright is talking some feedbacks on the poay per use approach on PaaS.</p>
<p>Here : <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/SAAS/?p=559" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/SAAS/?p=559</a></p>
<p>Conclusions from Coghead&#8217;s CEO are going in the same direction than the current discussion even if PaaS had until now more of a pay per use model.</p>
<p>So are we condemned to the packaged approach ?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Patterson</title>
		<link>http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/07/02/when-should-software-be-sold-pay-per-use/#comment-54433</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Sinclair
One of the growth issues we have is to do with pricing a moving target. Our customers want predictable pricing. But we pay the  telco for comms from these remote sites -- they can and do change their rates. And as customers become more comfortable with the technology they start bringing more info back from each site - again up goes our telco costs. Costs that we have not factored in to the original contract so we are wearing the risk. The roles I thought I might need in this environ were more comms or network expertise? Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Sinclair<br />
One of the growth issues we have is to do with pricing a moving target. Our customers want predictable pricing. But we pay the  telco for comms from these remote sites &#8212; they can and do change their rates. And as customers become more comfortable with the technology they start bringing more info back from each site - again up goes our telco costs. Costs that we have not factored in to the original contract so we are wearing the risk. The roles I thought I might need in this environ were more comms or network expertise? Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Sinclair Schuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sinclair Schuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne,

Key roles are really dependent on your goals. Off the cuff, however, I'd say that any growing SaaS company should generally fill upper management positions dealing with SaaS/subscription based sales, a technologist role (CTO) with experience in hosted software, growth and risk management related to centralization.

Any details as to what your concerns are with the growth so we can give you better input?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne,</p>
<p>Key roles are really dependent on your goals. Off the cuff, however, I&#8217;d say that any growing SaaS company should generally fill upper management positions dealing with SaaS/subscription based sales, a technologist role (CTO) with experience in hosted software, growth and risk management related to centralization.</p>
<p>Any details as to what your concerns are with the growth so we can give you better input?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
Our company has developed a SAAS solution some time ago that provides SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Aquisition) on demand to water authorities pumping stations. Our pricing model has always been a fixed per site monthly fee. We don't have the problem with shared seats because each pumping station has its own cellular address and we install the embedded device that is being monitored and controlled. With the economic downturn the once poor acceptance of our product is now showing signs of changing and we need to gear up for some big growth. My problem is making sure I have the right people in the right roles. If anyone has any views on what the must have skills/roles are I would love to hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Our company has developed a SAAS solution some time ago that provides SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Aquisition) on demand to water authorities pumping stations. Our pricing model has always been a fixed per site monthly fee. We don&#8217;t have the problem with shared seats because each pumping station has its own cellular address and we install the embedded device that is being monitored and controlled. With the economic downturn the once poor acceptance of our product is now showing signs of changing and we need to gear up for some big growth. My problem is making sure I have the right people in the right roles. If anyone has any views on what the must have skills/roles are I would love to hear.</p>
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