Comments on: According to ISVs, Salesforce’s Force.com is Not the Platform for SaaS http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/ Understanding the Software as a Service Revolution Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:25:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Software as Services mobile edition http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37702 Software as Services mobile edition Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:55:30 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37702 [...] About that show of hands. I didn’t expect my straw poll at last week’s SaaS Summit would produce only two hesitant supporters for Salesforce.com’s Force.com platform-as-a-service model out of a room full of two or three hundred ISVs. But this was a conference organized by specialist SaaS hoster OpSource, and even though the OpSource team does a great job of making this an event of interest to the entire industry, you’d still have to expect the attendees would skew towards favoring OpSource’s managed hosting model. A similar straw poll at a Force.com event would probably skew in the exact opposite direction in favor of Salesforce.com’s more packaged platform. To arrive at any other conclusion is mischievous at best. [Disclosure: Salesforce.com and OpSource are both clients, OpSource funded my travel costs to be at the event.] [...] […] About that show of hands. I didn’t expect my straw poll at last week’s SaaS Summit would produce only two hesitant supporters for Salesforce.com’s Force.com platform-as-a-service model out of a room full of two or three hundred ISVs. But this was a conference organized by specialist SaaS hoster OpSource, and even though the OpSource team does a great job of making this an event of interest to the entire industry, you’d still have to expect the attendees would skew towards favoring OpSource’s managed hosting model. A similar straw poll at a Force.com event would probably skew in the exact opposite direction in favor of Salesforce.com’s more packaged platform. To arrive at any other conclusion is mischievous at best. [Disclosure: Salesforce.com and OpSource are both clients, OpSource funded my travel costs to be at the event.] […]

]]> By: links for 2008-03-04 « The Adventures of Geekgirl http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37312 links for 2008-03-04 « The Adventures of Geekgirl Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:29:06 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37312 [...] SaaS Blogs - » According to ISVs, Salesforce’s Force.com is Not the Platform for SaaS (tags: saas salesforce.com force.com platform isvs isv opsource) [...] […] SaaS Blogs - » According to ISVs, Salesforce’s Force.com is Not the Platform for SaaS (tags: saas salesforce.com force.com platform isvs isv opsource) […]

]]> By: No Love for Force.com | Warrior Point - Latest News and Tutorials on Salesforce.com, SaaS, and on-demand software http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37262 No Love for Force.com | Warrior Point - Latest News and Tutorials on Salesforce.com, SaaS, and on-demand software Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:50:34 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37262 [...] Posted March 3rd @ 3:50 pm by Darren A good discussion has ignited within the SaaS community. I first caught this on a post by Sinclair Schuller from SaaS Blogs. Salesforce’s PaaS model has drawn criticism ever since it was launched. At a recent OpSource Summit, Phil Wainewright conducted an informal ’show of hands’ survey and the results reignited the debate of whether Force.com makes sense for ISVs. [...] […] Posted March 3rd @ 3:50 pm by Darren A good discussion has ignited within the SaaS community. I first caught this on a post by Sinclair Schuller from SaaS Blogs. Salesforce’s PaaS model has drawn criticism ever since it was launched. At a recent OpSource Summit, Phil Wainewright conducted an informal ’show of hands’ survey and the results reignited the debate of whether Force.com makes sense for ISVs. […]

]]> By: Who is using Force.com? at diversity.net.nz http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37251 Who is using Force.com? at diversity.net.nz Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:17:04 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37251 [...] A number of prominent blogs including Renee Boucher Ferguson, Sinclair Schuller and Bob Warfield this morning wrote about the outcome of an informal straw poll conducted during a panel discussion hosted by Phil Wainewright at the OpSource SaaS summit this week. [...] […] A number of prominent blogs including Renee Boucher Ferguson, Sinclair Schuller and Bob Warfield this morning wrote about the outcome of an informal straw poll conducted during a panel discussion hosted by Phil Wainewright at the OpSource SaaS summit this week. […]

]]> By: Sinclair Schuller http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37236 Sinclair Schuller Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:47:07 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37236 Bob, thanks for the note. I actually hadn't approached the economics at all. You're absolutely correct: at $50.00 a seat, there's no lunch left for the ISV. Bob, thanks for the note. I actually hadn’t approached the economics at all. You’re absolutely correct: at $50.00 a seat, there’s no lunch left for the ISV.

]]> By: Bob Warfield http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37233 Bob Warfield Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:28:28 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37233 The poll was definitely representative. I've talked to a number of Silicon Valley companies about the topic. But Sinclair, you've missed the biggest issue with Force for ISV's: it's economic suicide to live with the price. You just can't succeed. More on my blog: http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/isvs-say-no-to-forcecom/ Cheers, BW The poll was definitely representative. I’ve talked to a number of Silicon Valley companies about the topic. But Sinclair, you’ve missed the biggest issue with Force for ISV’s: it’s economic suicide to live with the price. You just can’t succeed.

More on my blog:

http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/isvs-say-no-to-forcecom/

Cheers,

BW

]]> By: ISVs Say “No” to Force.com « SmoothSpan Blog http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37232 ISVs Say “No” to Force.com « SmoothSpan Blog Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:27:23 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2008/03/03/according-to-isvs-salesforces-forcecom-is-not-the-platform-for-saas/#comment-37232 [...] Posted by smoothspan on March 3, 2008 There are a couple of interesting posts from Sinclair Schuller and Renee Boucher Ferguson about an incident that took place at the OpSource SaaS Summit in San Francisco recently.  Apparently Phil Wainewright conducted a show of hands survey about the attendees intentions with respect to SaaS.  They had three choices.  [...] […] Posted by smoothspan on March 3, 2008 There are a couple of interesting posts from Sinclair Schuller and Renee Boucher Ferguson about an incident that took place at the OpSource SaaS Summit in San Francisco recently.  Apparently Phil Wainewright conducted a show of hands survey about the attendees intentions with respect to SaaS.  They had three choices.  […]

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