Comments on: Vendor Perception of the SaaS Platform Landscape http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/ Understanding the Software as a Service Revolution Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:53:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Sinclair Schuller http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2386 Sinclair Schuller Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:15:33 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2386 Paul, good comparison. When looked at from that angle, it's easy to see that the two are not mutually exclusive, and can in fact be complimentary. Paul, good comparison. When looked at from that angle, it’s easy to see that the two are not mutually exclusive, and can in fact be complimentary.

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Could it be that hosting 2.0 is the optimisation of a discrete offering? Ie feeding and watering of the host, just done better.
While Platform is more of a facilitation, it adds more value, is built to ‘facilitate’ business outcomes .
Obviously i’m guessing, but it seems to me that the intent of the offering is the discriminator.

]]> By: Sinclair Schuller http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2368 Sinclair Schuller Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:17:05 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2368 @Ultan I think you've highlighted the differences between OpSource and Apex. Apex provides a foundation with a seemingly "scriptish" environment to build "apps" on, but is not a vehicle for heavier engineering. With Apex, you get a "virtual machine" style container that provides an on-demand architecture for your business logic scripts. On the other hand, OpSource offers a collection of value adds like billing and metering, but still puts the onus of the applications architectural development on the software developer; the big downside here is you still have to spend PLENTY of time on the multi-tenant architecture of your application. How well you architect will then determine the operational expense of scale as well as any losses due to bugs. @Ultan
I think you’ve highlighted the differences between OpSource and Apex. Apex provides a foundation with a seemingly “scriptish” environment to build “apps” on, but is not a vehicle for heavier engineering. With Apex, you get a “virtual machine” style container that provides an on-demand architecture for your business logic scripts.

On the other hand, OpSource offers a collection of value adds like billing and metering, but still puts the onus of the applications architectural development on the software developer; the big downside here is you still have to spend PLENTY of time on the multi-tenant architecture of your application. How well you architect will then determine the operational expense of scale as well as any losses due to bugs.

]]> By: Sinclair Schuller http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2367 Sinclair Schuller Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:00:41 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2367 @Paul I agree; platforms are the solution to meeting market demand. There is a fine line between "platform" and the "hosting 2.0" paradigms. Although there is an obvious intersection, "hosting 2.0" seems to carry a negative connotation. A good question is where are the two different. @Paul
I agree; platforms are the solution to meeting market demand. There is a fine line between “platform” and the “hosting 2.0″ paradigms. Although there is an obvious intersection, “hosting 2.0″ seems to carry a negative connotation. A good question is where are the two different.

]]> By: ultan o brien http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2362 ultan o brien Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:42:13 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2362 From a development perspective Apex is really just a scripting language or glue for bolting in micro applications into the Appexchange. It does not replace the heavier engineering required to build an enterprise class application, as it would be like building an application using just javascripts. These are main contention points with Apex from the community at large. Is there a similarity between Apex and the new OpSource's offering, and what are the key differences being offered? From a development perspective Apex is really just a scripting language or glue for bolting in micro applications into the Appexchange. It does not replace the heavier engineering required to build an enterprise class application, as it would be like building an application using just javascripts. These are main contention points with Apex from the community at large. Is there a similarity between Apex and the new OpSource’s offering, and what are the key differences being offered?

]]> By: Paul http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2351 Paul Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:09:21 +0000 http://www.saasblogs.com/2007/03/28/vendor-perception-of-the-saas-platform-landscape/#comment-2351 Matt, Most of the SaaS market growth seems to be coming from platforms (shameless self promotion here http://unreasonablemen.net/content/view/36/42/) My take is that organic growth is too slow to meet share market expectations and platforms provide scale. Opsources play is interesting but could be callously called hosting 2.0. Matt,

Most of the SaaS market growth seems to be coming from platforms (shameless self promotion here http://unreasonablemen.net/content/view/36/42/)

My take is that organic growth is too slow to meet share market expectations and platforms provide scale.
Opsources play is interesting but could be callously called hosting 2.0.

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